Monday, April 27, 2009

FOLLOW UP TO RECENT VISIT

I am grateful to Javabean45 & Hollydog for permission to use their photographs here following my Easter visit when I was denied access to Terrazas as I am not on phase1.

There are a few others which I have have used despite not being able to contact the author , so if you recognise them and they are yours - sorry but I searched the forum for ages looking to get in touch by personal message.

I hope that these photos, which were all taken within the last 2 months, will give you a better idea of progress on the golf course than my ground level shots could.

I have read on the PW Forum tonight that there has been a constant to & fro of lorries on the new phase over the last week. Sounds encouraging and if anyone is going out there soon please take a look to see what progress there is and if you post a comment here we could hopefully get in touch and post your photographs.














Saturday, April 18, 2009

EASTER VISIT APRIL 2009 - PHASE 2 STARTED

Well the good news is in the title but what a very frustrating experience.

I attempted to drive in as if I owned the place rather than just a little bit of it but was turned away by a simple but resolute soul in a security uniform, who credited me with a much greater command of Spanish than I possess. Didn't even get a chance to say "mas despacio por favor" before he was heading back to his box / cage.

I had a slightly less frosty reception at what appears to pass for customer service but was firmly told that as Las Islas is a "distant prospect" (my words - not hers) I really have no business being there.

I was absolutely denied all access. Was I annoyed? About a 9.99 on a scale of 10.

These shysters, sorry property developers, have 70000 of my money and I am not allowed so much as a peak at what has been done to date. Outrageous is the nicest thing I can say about it, I was able to offer proof that I was indeed an "owner in waiting" but it made no difference.

I had also been told by a reasonable source that Terrazas had been withdrawn from sale and it was likely that people on later phases would be offered a transfer at a discount to either completed properties or off-plan alternatives at Condado or Mar Menor 2 where some completions are approx 2 years away.

I visited PWHQ were I met a very helpful lone salesman who has slowly become isolated with the loss of 9 colleagues over the last number of months.

I told the guy why I was there - to see what the story was with Terrazas and what alternatives were available. He told me that Terrazas is definitely available for sale but unfortunately he couldn't show me anything because the computer was down. Within a few minutes the same computer was able to print out all available properties on Mar Menor 2.

I try to be accurate on this blog in recording what I have been told by people, either good or bad and completely stand over all the info, stories, rumours as being a true account of what I have been told. The "real" truth or otherwise is obviously in the eye of the beholder. Draw your own conclusions.

I told him that I have no interest in Condado so he took me through the options at MM2. My Terrazas property is 3 bed 1 bath @ 260000 so he was showing comparable properties which were 2 bed 2 bath with good size terraces which would complete within 12-24 months (completions are available within 4 months but that doesn't suit me.)

They seem a little more spacious however all but a few were considerably more expensive than mine. There were also many smaller apartments with smaller terraces available but it appears they are generally more expensive than at Terrazas. Accordingly, if it is desirable to transfer, unless a discount becomes available (isn't at this stage) it is going to be an expensive process.

The salesperson assured me that Terrazas is not in doubt and told me that his best estimate would be that phase 2 will be completed within 18 months and that Las Islas should complete within a further 12 months. Discounting the possibility of further delays that means completions on the islands at the end of 2011 rather than end of 2010 as I was recently told by the Customer Service department.

The good news, yes there is some, is that phase 2 has started and there are maybe 30 guys there working on phase2 to the side of the road leading into the Town Centre further away from phase 1, in other words the right hand end of phase 2.

The picture below shows some temporary storage and if you enlarge the photograph you will see that a fence has been erected to separate phase one during construction.


The following photo shows a little of the area that they are working on at present. There really wasn't too much to see but is very encouraging to see a start made to phase 2 and hope that this will provide happy news for anyone on phase 2 who happens to read this.



Further good news is that despite my doubts there is plenty of evidence of work on the entire golf course. Despite the fact that much of it is a long way from readiness it is great to see that the intent is there to provide 18 as I had feared that Terrazas may have continued as a 9 hole course for some time to come. There are even some cart paths in place at the southern end.

The one concern I would have is that albeit my view was limited at ground level, from what I could see of the more advanced holes near phase 1 they still look an woefully long way from readiness.

The following shots were from from various angles around the perimeter and I have labelled them to give an idea of location, remember phase 1 is at the north end of Terrazas.

East Side



South Side








West Side



Finally and another thing I view as a positive sign, I noticed that down the east side where sales are definitely off the radar at present there have still been changes since my last visit in August.

I noticed that they have done a substantial degree of planting and there are nice chunky trees, possibly cork but I'm no expert, on the many small roundabouts at what were to be the U shaped apartment blocks down the east side.


I hope this is a useful update and an encouragement to those on phase 2. As usual any comments or additional information would be very welcome.

Wednesday, April 1, 2009

Terrazas Update on PW Forum (not an April Fool)

For those who haven't seen it on the Polaris World Forum there was disturbing news that apparently both the Town Centre at Terrazas and Las Islas phases have been indefinitely postponed.

Furthermore the suggestion was that the Las Islas phases could be cancelled completely.

I emailed PW and received a phone call yesterday 31st March. Just as well it wasn't this morning or I might not have believed every word they told me!!

In a nut shell, Town Centre will not be built until there is an economic upturn - this will clearly be soon given that Obama,Brown et al are meeting today, always assuming President Sarcastic of La France doesn't give a Gallic shrug & storm out as threatened.

I digress, the gist of things is that a "real" Town Centre" is some way off however they are building a temporary clubhouse,supermarket and bar, apparently as we were speaking!

I asked about when other phases will be built and in what order. The amazing response was that when they start, they will work on all phases together and the Town Centre will be built at the same time. Las Islas will definitely not be cancelled. Completion for the entire resort will be 2101 - whoops I meant 2010 and this has apparently been confirmed by Santa, The Tooth Fairy and the soon to visit Easter Bunny. So that should be fine then.

The lady also said that all 18 holes will be open this year albeit late in the year.

I am going to Murcia on 11th April and will tour the perimeter of the resort to look at the golf course but frankly I will be surprised if more than 9 holes are being prepared at present. Photos to be provided of course.

I also raised my doubts about the Town Centre given that Hacienda Rick still await theirs. She told me that HR was a different case as there are complicated planning issues given that the Hacienda is an ancient historic building. Good news then that the planners apparently don't give a toss about our own crumbling ruin referred to I believe in the marketing material as "the historic Casón de Los Saurines manor house" apparently soon to become a swanky drinking den of the idle ex-pat.

So what can we take out of this information? Not a lot I would suggest.

I am talking to a few agents at La Torre at present and asked one as to the truth of the suggestion that Las Islas has disappeared from the current price list of available property. One guy denied this and sent me the price list which obviously only had phase 2 penthouses.

When I pointed this out he replied that it appears I am correct that Las Islas is off the market and then told me that his information is that PW will build what has been started at this stage and then sit it out and hope for the much talked of but yet unseen upturn in the market.

I believe that what he says is more likely to be closer to the truth than what I was told by the very nice lady from PW who I suspect was telling me exactly what she has been told by PW and maybe even believes it to be true.

So as usual confusion reigns and we are no further towards a complete resort at Terrazas.

My contact at La Torre also told me that a company of solicitors are taking a case to PW for pre trial discussion demanding return of deposits. They apparently need a Power of Attorney to act for you in this capacity.

No doubt you will have seen various threads on forums on the subject and it appears to me that those who have been given refunds would generally have some reason other than simply being fed up waiting so at this stage I am not inclined to join this action.

Finally what may be of interest to those of you with large suitcases bulging with Euros, the lovely lady at Polaris did tell me that PW are happy to transfer you to a key-ready property. What she didn't say but you can bet your bulging suitcase on is that they will transfer you to a property of equal or greater price.

Don't think you will get the sympathy vote from PW by droning on about the horrific effects of the slump in the value of sterling or the catastrophic downturn in the housing market or even the global economic crisis. These people have their own problems!

Have a Happy Easter and do check back for photos and any new info I get when I am out there.